#T5W: Books you disliked but love to discuss

Top Five Wednesday is a book meme that Lainey started and I discovered through the lovely Samantha‘s videos. If you’re interested you can join the goodreads group to get the topics for each week.

This week’s topic:

January 24th: Books You Disliked but Love to Discuss
— Some books we disliked or they were just okay, but they still have a lot of discussion points to sink your teeth into.



A Court of Wings and Ruin was such a fiasco I shouldn’t even get started talking about it. I don’t even care much about how a lot of the plot didn’t make sense but there were truly offensive elements and those are the ones I “love” talking about.

Flame in the Mist was another book I not only didn’t find great but I also thought it had many offensive elements. I haven’t seen anyone calling it out for its transphobia, but even without this element I would still be mad because it’s not realistic for a 2017 diverse release that’s supposed to be a Mulan retelling to not explore themes of gender and sexuality. It just feels like a huge loss of potential, but then the offensive elements came along and I just can’t help but hating this (but I’m happy to talk about it).

Ten Count had a great premise but it’s super problematic. Like, it’s not news for a BL manga to be very icky when it comes to consent, but here the non/dub-con elements even clashed with the whole premise of the story and it just didn’t make any sense. Also, it wasn’t just a kiss given without consent once (still icky), it was a lot of very heavy scenes like that and I just couldn’t bring myself to finish reading this.

Gilded Cage wasn’t the greatest book and I DNF’d it. The reason I like discussing it is bc to me too many elements of the fantasy/dystopic setting didn’t make sense and I love feeling validated when I talk about them and people agree.

Juliet Takes a Breath is a book I keep having to explain my opinion of and I’m actually tired of it. It probably shouldn’t even be in this list but oh well, I guess I do like talking abut it on some level. It’s not even about this book specifically but about a broader discussion about literature sometimes not being universal and this being okay. I might write a discussion post about this topic at some point if I feel like it (because it also ties back to my discussion about US-centrism and stuff that I wrote a while ago).

Have you read these books? Did you like them? Do you like talking about them?

8 thoughts on “#T5W: Books you disliked but love to discuss

  1. Your review of Flame in the Mist made me realize I don’t want to read that book. I know I hate that trope (especially when it comes to the “reveal” scenes and all their unfortunate implications) – it was what made me dislike The Girl in the Tower, I don’t need another book with it.
    And ACOWAR. What a mess. I wasn’t a fan of the series to begin with, but I just couldn’t with that one, I had to DNF it after 150 pages.

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    1. Sorry about FitM because maybe you might have liked it but honestly I wouldn’t be able to recommend it to anyone because it’s just average at best even without the problematic stuff :/ and yeah acowar was a damn mess. I kept reading bc I was invested in the story but idk idk I liked some parts but there was so much that I hated and people attacked me over it and they made me completely hate the book 🙃

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      1. The SJM fandom is the worst. That’s one of the many reasons I’m never trying one of her books again (the other main one is that her writing is mediocre at best). And I’m trying to never read a book with a “naked reveal scene” again because one I read recently had two, handled terribly, and I’m tired of that.

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        1. The fandom is very singleminded and goes too far. I get wanting to defend an author you like but if you attack other people in the process then you’re just a bad person. It sucks because it makes me and everyone else hate the author when in fact she gets A LOT of stuff right in my opinion, and yeah she fucks up more often than not lately but her work is what made me fall in love with YA fantasy a few years ago and I’ll always hold ToG dear to my heart even though now I recognize its many flaws. The fandom should just realize that it’s doing more harm than good :/
          And yeah you’re right naked reveal scenes should stop existing because it’s 2018 and we should be past that.

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